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	<title>Comments on: Why the Government needs to make Bikram yoga compulsory</title>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://theyogalunchbox.co.nz/2009/08/27/why-the-government-needs-to-make-bikram-yoga-compulsary/comment-page-1/#comment-4891</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 09:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The experience of Bikram on my life has been transforming,mentally and physically,it is simply wonderful.
The most positive,energising,strengthening exercise I have done,I am now a lifetime addict.
Yes,if only,there were walk in-as you go-Bikram government classes NZ would have a chilled out population.

Cheers,Bickyxxxx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The experience of Bikram on my life has been transforming,mentally and physically,it is simply wonderful.<br />
The most positive,energising,strengthening exercise I have done,I am now a lifetime addict.<br />
Yes,if only,there were walk in-as you go-Bikram government classes NZ would have a chilled out population.</p>
<p>Cheers,Bickyxxxx</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 02:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Yeah - Bikram for sure kicks butt in the best way! Desiree.... I&#039;m with you 150%. Bikram seems a bit nutty... but the class is changing my life one drop of sweat at a time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Yeah &#8211; Bikram for sure kicks butt in the best way! Desiree&#8230;. I&#8217;m with you 150%. Bikram seems a bit nutty&#8230; but the class is changing my life one drop of sweat at a time.</p>
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		<title>By: Andie</title>
		<link>http://theyogalunchbox.co.nz/2009/08/27/why-the-government-needs-to-make-bikram-yoga-compulsary/comment-page-1/#comment-3926</link>
		<dc:creator>Andie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 05:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah Yah tell the world ! It is so very true!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yah Yah tell the world ! It is so very true!</p>
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		<title>By: amrei newcomeb</title>
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		<dc:creator>amrei newcomeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 03:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear marianne!

I have been practising and teaching BIkram yoga for over 10 years now.....and even though i would like to tell you about my own and other incredible healing experiences i have been blessed to observe....

i just want to make two points....

1) YES Bikram yoga teacher are using what you call &quot; a memorised script&quot; ....we call it a &quot; dialogue&quot; meaning a dialogue between your body and the teachers words.....to bypass and switch off your mind...to find your 90 minute moving meditation...it is there to tell you what to do, when to do it and what it does for you...it is for precision, timing, rhythm, etc...

i wonder how many classes you did ....the &quot;push , push, push&quot; you made a big point of in ONLY dialogue of the very first posture and there for a reason:)... 

2) Emmi Cleaves is over 85 years old and has been teaching BIkram yoga for over 35 years
have a look at this 3 minute documentary about her ( http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090118/bc_yoga_teacher_090118/20090119/?hub=BritishColumbiaHome&amp;mid=52548 )....maybe this could made you rethink and even more importantly &quot; re-feel&quot; your very harsh judgment?

Namaste</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear marianne!</p>
<p>I have been practising and teaching BIkram yoga for over 10 years now&#8230;..and even though i would like to tell you about my own and other incredible healing experiences i have been blessed to observe&#8230;.</p>
<p>i just want to make two points&#8230;.</p>
<p>1) YES Bikram yoga teacher are using what you call &#8221; a memorised script&#8221; &#8230;.we call it a &#8221; dialogue&#8221; meaning a dialogue between your body and the teachers words&#8230;..to bypass and switch off your mind&#8230;to find your 90 minute moving meditation&#8230;it is there to tell you what to do, when to do it and what it does for you&#8230;it is for precision, timing, rhythm, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>i wonder how many classes you did &#8230;.the &#8220;push , push, push&#8221; you made a big point of in ONLY dialogue of the very first posture and there for a reason:)&#8230; </p>
<p>2) Emmi Cleaves is over 85 years old and has been teaching BIkram yoga for over 35 years<br />
have a look at this 3 minute documentary about her ( <a href="http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090118/bc_yoga_teacher_090118/20090119/?hub=BritishColumbiaHome&#038;mid=52548" rel="nofollow">http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090118/bc_yoga_teacher_090118/20090119/?hub=BritishColumbiaHome&#038;mid=52548</a> )&#8230;.maybe this could made you rethink and even more importantly &#8221; re-feel&#8221; your very harsh judgment?</p>
<p>Namaste</p>
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		<title>By: Is the Bikram series a victim of yoga snobbery? &#124; BikramGlobal.com &#124; The Bikram Yoga Community Connection</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is the Bikram series a victim of yoga snobbery? &#124; BikramGlobal.com &#124; The Bikram Yoga Community Connection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] real yoga. Or not good yoga. Or not good for you. Or something. (See the conversation unfolding on Why the Government needs to make Bikram yoga compulsory for a snippet of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bikram Lover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bikram Lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 19:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Bikram yoga! To me it&#039;s as essential as drinking water. However, I don&#039;t feel the negative reinforcement &quot;pathetic and fat&quot; is going to win many hearts. Just my thoughts. Best. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Bikram yoga! To me it&#8217;s as essential as drinking water. However, I don&#8217;t feel the negative reinforcement &#8220;pathetic and fat&#8221; is going to win many hearts. Just my thoughts. Best. <img src='http://theyogalunchbox.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 20:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely. It&#039;s a great resource. I am having a wee scout around from the other side of the world (London, UK). I&#039;ll read little by little so as not to yoga overwhelm myself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely. It&#8217;s a great resource. I am having a wee scout around from the other side of the world (London, UK). I&#8217;ll read little by little so as not to yoga overwhelm myself!</p>
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		<title>By: Kara-Leah Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kara-Leah Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 19:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Carol,

It is an interesting discussion eh? Fascinating for me to see how different people react, and how widely people&#039;s experience of Bikram Yoga seems to vary.

Thrilled you&#039;re thrilled, and hope you find some fascinating articles in the archive... there&#039;s something like 400 in there!

Blessings,
KL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Carol,</p>
<p>It is an interesting discussion eh? Fascinating for me to see how different people react, and how widely people&#8217;s experience of Bikram Yoga seems to vary.</p>
<p>Thrilled you&#8217;re thrilled, and hope you find some fascinating articles in the archive&#8230; there&#8217;s something like 400 in there!</p>
<p>Blessings,<br />
KL</p>
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		<title>By: Kara-Leah Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kara-Leah Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 19:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Susanna,
Thanks for your considered response.

I&#039;m not serious about making Bikram compulsory for everyone. It&#039;s written tongue-in-cheek. Because yes, it&#039;s not suitable for everybody, nor do I think that having a practice imposed on us externally will be beneficial in the longrun. This article was just a way to explore something and get people talking. Which it&#039;s done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Susanna,<br />
Thanks for your considered response.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not serious about making Bikram compulsory for everyone. It&#8217;s written tongue-in-cheek. Because yes, it&#8217;s not suitable for everybody, nor do I think that having a practice imposed on us externally will be beneficial in the longrun. This article was just a way to explore something and get people talking. Which it&#8217;s done!</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 16:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everyone

Just came across your website, KL, and read this post and all comments this morning - before 12noon bikram class. I think this is a really interesting discussion, and have come across people seeming to react to bikram from a place of being threatened before. I listened hard to the dialogue in class today, and the only &quot;push&quot; is to do with pushing hips forward or to the side during half moon and camel - using the hips as a counterbalance for spine bending along with core muscles. We never &quot;push, push, push&quot;. The push is gentle. We do pull quite a lot, on the other hand. And I understand if this seems like splitting hairs but to me pulling and pushing are VERY different things - physically and dynamically as well as spiritually and compassionately.

As for locking the knee, correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but we never lock the knee for more than 60 seconds, do we? And &quot;locking the knee&quot; is shorthand for engaging all the complex quads and other muscles around the knee to protect the joint. It&#039;s a misnomer, actually, we engage muscles, we&#039;re not actually being aggressive with our knees. Bikram yoga teaches us patience and great respect for our knees, e.g., fixed firm where no one is encouraged to go into full expression unless totally pain-free and comfortable.

Anecdotes to do with early menopause and miscarriage are another kettle of fish - and quite irresponsible, I think. Wouldn&#039;t this be actionable? Until I see a law suit I will treat with a pinch of salt, I&#039;m afraid. No offence.

Lastly, I&#039;m thrilled to have found your website. Thank you.
Breathe normal!
Caz xox</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone</p>
<p>Just came across your website, KL, and read this post and all comments this morning &#8211; before 12noon bikram class. I think this is a really interesting discussion, and have come across people seeming to react to bikram from a place of being threatened before. I listened hard to the dialogue in class today, and the only &#8220;push&#8221; is to do with pushing hips forward or to the side during half moon and camel &#8211; using the hips as a counterbalance for spine bending along with core muscles. We never &#8220;push, push, push&#8221;. The push is gentle. We do pull quite a lot, on the other hand. And I understand if this seems like splitting hairs but to me pulling and pushing are VERY different things &#8211; physically and dynamically as well as spiritually and compassionately.</p>
<p>As for locking the knee, correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but we never lock the knee for more than 60 seconds, do we? And &#8220;locking the knee&#8221; is shorthand for engaging all the complex quads and other muscles around the knee to protect the joint. It&#8217;s a misnomer, actually, we engage muscles, we&#8217;re not actually being aggressive with our knees. Bikram yoga teaches us patience and great respect for our knees, e.g., fixed firm where no one is encouraged to go into full expression unless totally pain-free and comfortable.</p>
<p>Anecdotes to do with early menopause and miscarriage are another kettle of fish &#8211; and quite irresponsible, I think. Wouldn&#8217;t this be actionable? Until I see a law suit I will treat with a pinch of salt, I&#8217;m afraid. No offence.</p>
<p>Lastly, I&#8217;m thrilled to have found your website. Thank you.<br />
Breathe normal!<br />
Caz xox</p>
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